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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostMon Jul 03, 2017 7:13 pm

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Baby Driver - the absolute tits. Go see it.


On my list for this week!

Heard nothing but raving positives about this movie.

Deserves the praise, in my opinion. The way it's all timed to the soundtrack is something else, there's been flashes of it in his other work but to carry it on for more-or-less the whole film is so impressive. The more I think about it, the more I like it.
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PostWed Jul 12, 2017 7:00 pm

Spiderman Homecoming - it's good. Holland and Keaton are class in the lead roles, there's a tidy little twist that I genuinely didn't see coming, a couple of intense scenes towards the end and a genuinely very funny final post-credits scene (that didn't require a Google to fully understand, which is always nice). It's all a bit too light for me though, I prefer my Marvels to have a bit more about them - Iron Man 3 and the two Captain 'Murica sequels are still the standouts in the franchise, for me - and it's three films on the bounce now that just feel like they're treading water between the next genuine plot/character development.

That said, I'm still into Ragnarok (which looked superb from the trailers), and I'm into Black Panther, and not turning up for IW 1 and 2 at this point would be silly. So I'm still going to throw at least £50 at this franchise. So I guess it doesn't even matter at this point!
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PostMon Jul 17, 2017 9:24 am

THE MUMMY - 6.5

The reviews for this are dreadful, watched it as the wife and I both like Tom Cruise - I didn't mind it to be honest. Kind of hits a wall when Russell Crowe's character appears, I didn't get him at all. The zombies have a bit of threat about them (more than the Walking Dead etc where they just walk and can be killed off without even looking at them) and can even swim underwater which I think is a first! Some good action scenes, couple of funny bits, was alright for a Saturday night with a takeaway film

LOGAN - 7.0

Enjoyed it, good fighting scenes, I like Hugh Jackman and the little girl was excellent. Can't stand Stephen Merchant and Patrick Stewart I found annoying aswell

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Previous 2017 scores:
8.5 ARRIVAL
8.0 THE LEGO BATMAN MOVIE, TRAIN TO BUSAN, KONG SKULL ISLAND
7.5 HELL OR HIGH WATER, NOCTURNAL ANIMALS, MANCHESTER BY THE SEA, SPLIT, DESPICABLE ME 3
7.0 THE WITCH, I, DANIEL BLAKE, MULHOLLAND DRIVE (2001), GET OUT, BEAUTY AND THE BEAST, WHY HIM?, LOGAN
6.5 DEEPWATER HORIZON, THE MUMMY
6.0 JACK REACHER 2, HACKSAW RIDGE
5.5 SISTERS, TRAINSPOTTING (1996), KEEPING UP WITH THE JONESES
3.0 SILENCE
2.0 HOW TO BE SINGLE
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostSun Aug 06, 2017 11:11 pm

THE MUMMY
Tom Cruise can'rt have too much left as a front 'action man' figure - he plays exactly the same role anyway (but then the A- actors always tend to do that)

The good in this as LTS_3 mentioned were the zombie types, the spooky Mummy voiceover and a few decent quips along the way - especially between the Nick and Chris characters.

Beyond that it is a bit of a disaster as the screenplay is poor, the direction is weak at best, there is no chemistry on display between the leads, and in the end it all hinges on Cruise maintaining that likeable rogue front for the duration. What the point of the additional 'J&H character was I have no idea, but for me you could remove everything done by Crowe and lose nothing except continuity. This 'dark universe' banner that the film is made under needs some serious heavyweight thinking or the franchise is toast.

5.0 - Scrapes over the halfway line but I could easily have missed it completely and not cared less.
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostThu Aug 17, 2017 12:59 pm

THE GIRL ON THE TRAIN - 6.5

Wife read the book so we watched this after. I struggled with the main character, but the film picked up in the last half an hour or so, was alright

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Previous 2017 scores:
8.5 ARRIVAL
8.0 THE LEGO BATMAN MOVIE, TRAIN TO BUSAN, KONG SKULL ISLAND
7.5 HELL OR HIGH WATER, NOCTURNAL ANIMALS, MANCHESTER BY THE SEA, SPLIT, DESPICABLE ME 3
7.0 THE WITCH, I, DANIEL BLAKE, MULHOLLAND DRIVE (2001), GET OUT, BEAUTY AND THE BEAST, WHY HIM?, LOGAN
6.5 DEEPWATER HORIZON, THE MUMMY, THE GIRL ON THE TRAIN
6.0 JACK REACHER 2, HACKSAW RIDGE
5.5 SISTERS, TRAINSPOTTING (1996), KEEPING UP WITH THE JONESES
3.0 SILENCE
2.0 HOW TO BE SINGLE
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostFri Aug 18, 2017 10:41 pm

Guardians of the Galaxy 2

This had some promising trailers and I was hoping that the franchise would go from strength to strength, even though the fresh feel of the original has gone the characters are established and need to be nurtured.

What I think i got was a brasher, more obvious, less charming and certainly inferior narrative compared to the original. It still has the happy vibe of its predecessor but it it lacks the effervescence, isn't as witty and is overlong for the content which proves a little disjointed, whilst a slice of mawkish Disney overkill in the final act had me getting a bit fidgety

7/10 - Visually it hits the spot, but it over-complicates what is really a simple story and plot and has lost a little of the spark from GOTG1.
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostMon Aug 28, 2017 9:29 pm

Due to a series of very unfortunate events the toughest being our dogs illness resulting in her passing after being with us for nearly 15 years, I never got to see Baby Driver on the big screen :(

I'm going to see if it comes back around again on any local screens and go - if not I guess it's the projector!
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PostWed Aug 30, 2017 5:38 pm

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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostSat Sep 09, 2017 10:00 am

CAPTAIN UNDERPANTS - 6.0

Animated movie for kids but one of the better ones in the last couple of years, Kevin Hart and Ed Helms are both good in it

IT - 7.5

Loved the original and Pennywise so was interested to see what they did with this - definitely feels like a 80s film like Stand By Me and The Goonies etc. The new Pennywise is class. There are a few JUMP moments, a couple in particular had the whole cinema at the same time, but its not 'scary' or really a horror film I wouldnt say. Quite a few funny bits in it throughout aswell which takes away from the creepiness. Couple of the kids were a bit annoying but the young girl looks like she has got a big future ahead of her

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Previous 2017 scores:
8.5 ARRIVAL
8.0 THE LEGO BATMAN MOVIE, TRAIN TO BUSAN, KONG SKULL ISLAND
7.5 HELL OR HIGH WATER, NOCTURNAL ANIMALS, MANCHESTER BY THE SEA, SPLIT, DESPICABLE ME 3, IT
7.0 THE WITCH, I, DANIEL BLAKE, MULHOLLAND DRIVE (2001), GET OUT, BEAUTY AND THE BEAST, WHY HIM?, LOGAN
6.5 DEEPWATER HORIZON, THE MUMMY, THE GIRL ON THE TRAIN
6.0 JACK REACHER 2, HACKSAW RIDGE, CAPTAIN UNDERPANTS
5.5 SISTERS, TRAINSPOTTING (1996), KEEPING UP WITH THE JONESES
3.0 SILENCE
2.0 HOW TO BE SINGLE
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostWed Sep 13, 2017 3:04 pm

OKJA - Netflix Original 6.5/10

Cute little story which on the surface is about a young girl, her super pig and the corporation that wants to turn it into meat.

Its much more layered than that though and is a commentary on our society, the power of corporations and above all else, greed.

Main criticism is the acting. It was either poor (the young girl playing the main protagonist) or over done (Jake Gyllenhaal playing a American version of Chris Packham) and for me spoilt the film which is the main was decent. Story was believable if a little cartoony at times. Pacing was steady and the conclusion was satisfactory.
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostWed Sep 13, 2017 8:29 pm

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IT - 7.5

Loved the original and Pennywise so was interested to see what they did with this - definitely feels like a 80s film like Stand By Me and The Goonies etc. The new Pennywise is class. There are a few JUMP moments, a couple in particular had the whole cinema at the same time, but its not 'scary' or really a horror film I wouldnt say. Quite a few funny bits in it throughout aswell which takes away from the creepiness. Couple of the kids were a bit annoying but the young girl looks like she has got a big future ahead of her


Those underpants, though!
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostThu Sep 14, 2017 12:01 am

IT

Psycho clowns.
Nope.
Not.
Ever.
Never.
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostFri Sep 22, 2017 8:09 am

Kingsman - The Golden Circle

Loved the first one. One of my favorite easy watching films.

This is very poor in comparison. Stupid story, stupid Elton John.

Main character is still dynamite, and a few other strong characters.

Way too long for what it needed to be.~

Absolutely stupid car chase scene at the start.

If I gave the first one a 8.5/10

This gets a 5.5/10
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostSat Sep 23, 2017 12:42 am

Baby Driver

So I had to settle for the projector but hey - the screen is massive and the 7.1 stereo ain't bad either so it was a great watch even if not the preferred one.

The film is absolutely stunning in its conception. music score, action, chemistry and all round delivery. It has I admit been a while since anything made me smile quite so much (probably driving a mad Subaru on a course last year) and it didn't stop there as I want to see it again!

9.5/10 - Easily the best thing I've seen on screen this year
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostWed Sep 27, 2017 4:30 pm

Baby Driver 7/10

My reason for not giving this a higher score is that I felt it missed an opportunity.

I absolutely loved the concept of this film and felt it was well executed. However. the idea of making the music fit perfectly with the film wasn't used as much as it could've been. I was expecting the film to be almost like a music video where everything is choreographed to the music. It did do this, but not all the way through which I think was a shame.

When it was done, it was done brilliantly. I just wanted more.

Really good film which I would defo watch again.
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostTue Oct 03, 2017 9:07 am

Baby Driver - 8/10

thought it would be shit

it wasn't
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostTue Oct 03, 2017 9:08 am

Spiderman Homecoming - 9/10

ok. so i'm a big fan of the MCU and Spiderman in particular, i just think they pretty much nailed it with this film, can't wait to see more!
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostTue Oct 03, 2017 10:09 am

Would ^^ be suitable for a 6 year old?
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostWed Oct 04, 2017 10:46 am

if he likes Spiderman then yeh
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostFri Oct 06, 2017 11:20 am

SPIDERMAN - 7.0

Watched this with my kids, I'm not normally a fan of these superhero films and haven't been ar5ed about previous Spiderman movies (largely due to Garfield and Maguire, neither of whom I like watching). This felt more fun than previous ones and I think it benefitted from a younger lad doing it

IT COMES AT NIGHT - 7.0

Wasn't sure what to expect of this as I hadn't read much about it, I would suggest if you watch it to do the same. Felt a bit like The Witch and Get Out, I quite enjoyed it and it's done in under an hour and a half

BAYWATCH - 6.5

Enjoyed this more than I thought I would, probably owing a large part to the fact that I have always loved The Rock. Him and Zac Efron are good together in this, some funny bits, a couple of decent action sequences and the main women are amazing

KIDNAP - 4.0

Halle Berry's son gets kidnapped, she chases the kidnappers. Does my head in when people talk to themself on film/tv, she does loads of that. Probably could have been an idea for a decent film, but sh1te acting and script let it down badly

ROUGH NIGHT - 3.5

(Wife wanted to watch it) Tame female version of The Hangover / Very Bad Things, very few laughs and jokes that just fall flat on their face. Scarlett Johannson and Zoe Kravitz can't save it

GIRLS TRIP - 3.5

(Wife wanted to watch it) Black version of above. Same result

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Previous 2017 scores:
8.5 ARRIVAL
8.0 THE LEGO BATMAN MOVIE, TRAIN TO BUSAN, KONG SKULL ISLAND
7.5 HELL OR HIGH WATER, NOCTURNAL ANIMALS, MANCHESTER BY THE SEA, SPLIT, DESPICABLE ME 3, IT
7.0 THE WITCH, I, DANIEL BLAKE, MULHOLLAND DRIVE (2001), GET OUT, BEAUTY AND THE BEAST, WHY HIM?, LOGAN, SPIDERMAN, IT COMES AT NIGHT
6.5 DEEPWATER HORIZON, THE MUMMY, THE GIRL ON THE TRAIN, BAYWATCH
6.0 JACK REACHER 2, HACKSAW RIDGE, CAPTAIN UNDERPANTS
5.5 SISTERS, TRAINSPOTTING (1996), KEEPING UP WITH THE JONESES
4.0 KIDNAP
3.5 ROUGH NIGHT, GIRLS TRIP
3.0 SILENCE
2.0 HOW TO BE SINGLE
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostThu Oct 12, 2017 12:55 pm

relfyoftheboro wrote:I was expecting the film to be almost like a music video where everything is choreographed to the music. It did do this, but not all the way through which I think was a shame.


I thought that at first, but then figured it was a deliberate thing by Wright. When Baby is in control of the situation everything is timed with the music, but when he loses control the timing drops off and it makes the scenes that bit more chaotic.

There are a few scenes that don't quite fit with this idea - scenes with shooting being the obvious ones - but otherwise I think it not being tightly choreographed is kind of the point.
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostFri Dec 15, 2017 12:15 pm

Star Wars - The Last Jedi.

Was alright. Not the worst, not the best of the series.

7/10
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostFri Dec 15, 2017 7:35 pm

I gave Star Wars: The Last Jedi an 8.5/10 - it's still behind 'Return of the Jedi' and 'Empire Strikes back' for me.

I thoroughly enjoyed it whilst watching, some solid performances, great action sequences and the story was good but there were some things that made no sense to me (no spoilers) one of which...well you'll know when you watch.

There does seem a split between the critics/fanboys who are heaping praise on it and the more general audience who rate it meh, which is interesting.
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostMon Dec 18, 2017 8:41 am

It's bobbins. Looks and sounds good, as you'd expect from the Disney production machine, with some good good performances (including Fisher, which was a pleasant surprise after a fairly stilted TFA). But the timeline is a mess, the second act is flabby and convoluted, there's a lot of real dumb stuff and the main plot for most of the characters in the multi-million dollar sci-fi fantasy epic is that the goodies are running out of space petrol.

Probably would have given it a 7, but the more I think about it the closer I get to a 6.
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostMon Dec 18, 2017 11:40 am

gets a thumbs up from me!
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostMon Dec 18, 2017 2:47 pm

I must admit, I’ve seen it twice and thought it was ace and so did the two groups I went with. Oh well, guess you can’t please everybody.
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PostTue Dec 19, 2017 2:16 pm

Star Wars - 8/10

Not perfect by any stretch and a lot of stuff I didn't like at all, but the film is carried by simply being so good in a lot of different areas. By far the best acting we've seen in Star Wars, the best shot, the best fight scenes, the best space battles. A lot of that is to be expected, but we also got a completely different level of character development with Kylo. We've never had a complex and layered villain like that, he's exactly what Anakin should have looked like.

I know there's people claiming it's terrible, one of the worst star wars ever made etc, that's either issues with nostalgia or a plain lie, as you'd struggle badly to argue for any of the prequels being better than this, and the OT isn't exactly flawless.

It's definitely flawed and I think they felt the pressure of being too similar to ESB so took a few risks, like omitting the training scenes with Luke. I think the next film will be set in the future though, which will alleviate a lot of the criticisms people are making.

The feminist agenda from Laura Dern was a bit much as well, even more so when she writes an article confirming her character was just there to make the blokes look like idiots.
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostTue Dec 19, 2017 3:17 pm

The bit with Leia in space was fucking stupid.

The bit with the ship jumping into hyperspace, was ace.
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostTue Dec 19, 2017 3:29 pm

Superman Leia :lol: baffling.

The force link between Kylo and Rey was cool, the best bit of storytelling they've done so far. Tbh, everything with Kylo in was amazing. Adam Driver the MVP.
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PostWed Dec 20, 2017 1:49 pm

"Feminist agenda" - your YouTube comments section is showing.

They scuffed that bit though, because it could have just been explained to Poe. They could have still had the same plot - Poe not believing it would work, Finn and Rose's pointless adventure in the casino that inadvertently leads to the transports getting targeted, the failed mutiny - except the whole feminist message hits that bit harder because you haven't got this big, explanation-sized plot hole and everything Poe does is genuinely down to his now-realised misogyny rather than a perfectly reasonable distrust of some rando who turned up out of nowhere, and he's forced to actually own his mistakes/guilt and his development makes more sense.

Why didn't she do the hyperspace thing before the other two ships were destroyed as well? I liked her whole thing before, but the more I think about her the more obvious questions come up.
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PostWed Dec 20, 2017 9:08 pm

Tom wrote:"Feminist agenda" - your YouTube comments section is showing.

They scuffed that bit though, because it could have just been explained to Poe. They could have still had the same plot - Poe not believing it would work, Finn and Rose's pointless adventure in the casino that inadvertently leads to the transports getting targeted, the failed mutiny - except the whole feminist message hits that bit harder because you haven't got this big, explanation-sized plot hole and everything Poe does is genuinely down to his now-realised misogyny rather than a perfectly reasonable distrust of some rando who turned up out of nowhere, and he's forced to actually own his mistakes/guilt and his development makes more sense.

Why didn't she do the hyperspace thing before the other two ships were destroyed as well? I liked her whole thing before, but the more I think about her the more obvious questions come up.


You don't have to read Youtube comments to be able to recognize the clear casting agenda with Dern, TLJ is already been lauded as a triumph for feminism across the media, and Dern her self has confirmed that she was there to make the main guy in Poe look stupid and irrational. No issue with that at all as long as it's done properly and it wasn't, in an area that dictated half of the film.

They didn't just scuff this part of the film - it flat out made no sense. It was ridiculous that Dern didn't tell Poe the plan in the first place, but still not telling him once he has you at gun point and is taking over? In regards to your idea, it would have gone against all logic not to retreat to the former rebel base, Poe was desperate to do something because he was told that they'd given up and were simply waiting to die. I don't see anything that suggests he'd go against that plan.

It might have been a big win for feminism but it created a significant arc of the story that felt completely pointless, bordering on a plothole. There's reasons why professional film critics love this and fans are completely divided on it. There's an impression that too much of the canon was discarded in order to fit in all Disney's messages. Everyone has the force now, everyone can be special, you don't need training anymore etc.
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostThu Dec 21, 2017 8:27 am

Dunkirk

really good - boots on the ground film about the mass evacuation of the troops from Dunkirk, gives a slight indication about how scary and desperate it must have been
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PostFri Dec 22, 2017 9:55 am

DUNKIRK - 9.0

I've slept on it and this is the best film I saw this year.

Another story which highlights 0.001% of horror of war and what young lads of our grandparents generation went through. Excellent performances by everyone, including Harry Styles. The dogfight scenes are brilliant, something which I have only done on a computer game.

Honestly had me thinking what a bunch of fannies we all are in this age

PADDINGTON 2 - 6.5

Last one of 2017, took the kids to see it at the cinema, all enjoyed it, far better than the first one. Load of top English actors in it aswell

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Previous 2017 scores:
9.0 DUNKIRK
8.5 ARRIVAL
8.0 THE LEGO BATMAN MOVIE, TRAIN TO BUSAN, KONG SKULL ISLAND
7.5 HELL OR HIGH WATER, NOCTURNAL ANIMALS, MANCHESTER BY THE SEA, SPLIT, DESPICABLE ME 3, IT
7.0 THE WITCH, I, DANIEL BLAKE, MULHOLLAND DRIVE (2001), GET OUT, BEAUTY AND THE BEAST, WHY HIM?, LOGAN, SPIDERMAN, IT COMES AT NIGHT
6.5 DEEPWATER HORIZON, THE MUMMY, THE GIRL ON THE TRAIN, BAYWATCH, PADDINGTON 2
6.0 JACK REACHER 2, HACKSAW RIDGE, CAPTAIN UNDERPANTS
5.5 SISTERS, TRAINSPOTTING (1996), KEEPING UP WITH THE JONESES
4.0 KIDNAP
3.5 ROUGH NIGHT, GIRLS TRIP
3.0 SILENCE
2.0 HOW TO BE SINGLE
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostFri Dec 22, 2017 11:58 pm

Star Wars: TLJ
7.5/10

Good film, very enjoyable. A bit slow to get going and a lot of things I didn't like. Some great scenes and effects and I really like the bad guys Kylo Ren & General Hux.

Re: the feminist agenda.
It was quite blatant and it wasn't just the feminism. It was 100% pro-diversity to the point that maybe they have gone too far the other way to score points. Other than Luke, the only other white males are the bad guys, Adam Driver & Domnhall Gleeson. Everyone else is either female, black, Asian or Hispanic. There was also the political shaming of the arms dealing bad guys. Too much political correctness that just isn't needed. Admittedly all of these characters are from different planets so looking the same isn't a necessity.
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostTue Jan 09, 2018 3:58 am

3 billboards outside ebbing Missouri..

Excellent film. Frances McDormand plays her character brilliantly. Can't say no more without giving spoilers..
The ending had me thinking, and I'm certain they'll kill him once she sees the guy again
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostTue Jan 09, 2018 7:51 am

agreed

excellent film

Sam Rockwell superb (as usual)
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PostMon Jan 15, 2018 10:22 am

BAD MOM'S CHRISTMAS - 2.0

Another simply terrible 'comedy', I literally smirked once during the whole film. Don't know how companies can keep getting away with putting sh1t like this out. Even Mila Kunis and Kristen Bell went no way toward rescuing it in any way.

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2.0 BAD MOM'S CHRISTMAS
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PostMon Jan 15, 2018 10:47 am

Wind River - 8/10

Jeremy Renner movie about a young lass who is raped and murdered - very, very good

Bladerunner 2049 - 5/10

was quite good, wish they'd explored the world of the future a bit more, showed a bit more of the environment.....but, for me, it was on way too looooooooooooooooooong...........mention to his (Goslings) "girlfriend" - shes stunning

The Snowman - 6/10

another "whodunnit" with Fassbender in Norway (bork, poor bastard). He's a bloody good actor and just about managed to make this movie worth watching
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PostTue Jan 16, 2018 9:54 am

The Darktower - 7/10

Based on a very long set of books by Stephen King - not sure if the plan is to make them all into movies or not

pretty good start though, was a lot better than i was expecting
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostTue Jan 16, 2018 6:53 pm

"Feminist agenda" - some of the funniest stuff Ive read in ages lads. :lol: I think maybe's a little bit too much has been read into this film and Laura Dern's segment in particular. By all means find plot holes and point them out, but to suggest some larger feminist conspiracy sounds, IMHO, a bit daft.

Star Wars : The Last Jedi 8.5/10

Went up to the Odeon at the Metro to watch it and the first thing to say is that it wasn't as IMAXy as the first one. 3D was good but it wasn't as immersive as the first, you didn't feel part of the scenes which happened a lot with The Force Awakens.

Considering it was the longest Star Wars ever (I think) the time flew by. Didn't look at the time once and I always find this a decent indicator of a film. Really enjoyed the light hearted touches, there were some plain silly bits (the ironing scene :D ) and the film didn't take itself too seriously. Lots of twists and unexpected bits moving away from the mirroring that The Force Awakens did with New Hope had so it really felt like its own film in many regards.

As has been pointed out, a few seemingly odd plot holes or things happening that apparently have not been possible before but its all entirely forgivable as the overall ride is brilliant.

My only criticisms are : 1/Finn was under used, the whole casino trip felt like it was used to give him something to do because he didn't really feature, compared to Force Awakens. 2/I'm still struggling with Kylo Ren as I just don't think we've learned enough about why there's so much of the Dark side in him. All we really know is that he has and Luke clocked it. I expect this will be visited in Episode Nine so no biggy. Despite this I think Adam Driver is class as Kylo and the character himself is pretty cool, I'd just like to know more about him.
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostThu Jan 18, 2018 10:07 am

relfyoftheboro wrote:"Feminist agenda" - some of the funniest stuff Ive read in ages lads. :lol: I think maybe's a little bit too much has been read into this film and Laura Dern's segment in particular. By all means find plot holes and point them out, but to suggest some larger feminist conspiracy sounds, IMHO, a bit daft.

Star Wars : The Last Jedi 8.5/10

Went up to the Odeon at the Metro to watch it and the first thing to say is that it wasn't as IMAXy as the first one. 3D was good but it wasn't as immersive as the first, you didn't feel part of the scenes which happened a lot with The Force Awakens.

Considering it was the longest Star Wars ever (I think) the time flew by. Didn't look at the time once and I always find this a decent indicator of a film. Really enjoyed the light hearted touches, there were some plain silly bits (the ironing scene :D ) and the film didn't take itself too seriously. Lots of twists and unexpected bits moving away from the mirroring that The Force Awakens did with New Hope had so it really felt like its own film in many regards.

As has been pointed out, a few seemingly odd plot holes or things happening that apparently have not been possible before but its all entirely forgivable as the overall ride is brilliant.

My only criticisms are : 1/Finn was under used, the whole casino trip felt like it was used to give him something to do because he didn't really feature, compared to Force Awakens. 2/I'm still struggling with Kylo Ren as I just don't think we've learned enough about why there's so much of the Dark side in him. All we really know is that he has and Luke clocked it. I expect this will be visited in Episode Nine so no biggy. Despite this I think Adam Driver is class as Kylo and the character himself is pretty cool, I'd just like to know more about him.


It's not really a conspiracy when it's been confirmed by the actor and the head of the star wars studio herself, they've literally confirmed the idea behind her character and that part of the film in particular. I'll never understand why people will try to deny something like this that is so obviously implemented in the film, rather than just calling it for what it is. It's not a big issue, but when it leads to a rubbish part of the film, people are going to talk about it.

An agenda is just a motive, not a deep rooted, complex conspiracy. They had a feminist motive like you'd expect from a blockbuster Disney film, it was just done really badly in this instance. Unless it was '"the most triumphantly feminist Star Wars movie yet"' by pure accident :lol:
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostThu Jan 18, 2018 12:29 pm

" I'll never understand why people will try to deny something like this that is so obviously implemented in the film, rather than just calling it for what it is"

Thing is, it wasn't obvious. I watched the film, saw the holes but certainly didn't read anything further into it. I only came across the idea when I read this thread. It just sounds like an absolute nonsense to me. Yes they had some female characters telling some male characters off and showing them up. They had some female characters making decisions and being strong, but the suggestion of a "feminist agenda" is laughable, IMO. It was just Disney doing what Disney do and providing some balance.

A theory pulled together by some insecure, misogynist nerds. :))
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostThu Jan 18, 2018 1:15 pm

relfyoftheboro wrote:" I'll never understand why people will try to deny something like this that is so obviously implemented in the film, rather than just calling it for what it is"

Thing is, it wasn't obvious. I watched the film, saw the holes but certainly didn't read anything further into it. I only came across the idea when I read this thread. It just sounds like an absolute nonsense to me. Yes they had some female characters telling some male characters off and showing them up. They had some female characters making decisions and being strong, but the suggestion of a "feminist agenda" is laughable, IMO. It was just Disney doing what Disney do and providing some balance.

A theory pulled together by some insecure, misogynist nerds. :))


You not noticing it in the film or not being bothered about it doesn't mean it wasn't there, you're arguing something completely different.

You laughed at the idea of it even existing, which is just dishonest. As I said, why are there pages after pages of reviews hailing this as a huge triumph for feminism, there's 3/4 on the Guardian alone, if there wasn't any motive to promote feminism? Not noticing it in the film is one thing, but still claiming it's nonsense after seeing the evidence is ridiculous. The actors confirmed it, the head of the studio confirmed it and it was received as a big film for feminism. You then said it's Disney doing what Disney do, as if to prove the point I made from the very beginning.

You bit on the word 'agenda' as if I was suggesting it was some deceitful plot to alienate men. Not at all, if there's any film that needed more women representation, it was Star Wars. The issue was that they shoehorned it in and fucked up half of the film just to have a strong women character making one of the lead guys look like a dummy in a plot device that made no sense. You may not have noticed, but that side plot is one of the biggest complaints about the film. It was badly done.

An agenda is a motive or an underlying intention, I'm pretty sure you don't disagree that they had a feminist motive, so it sounds more and more like you're just eager to call someone a misogynist :lol:
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostThu Jan 18, 2018 2:11 pm

Sorry, you can flap your gums about it as much as you like fella. Far too much has been made of this "agenda" when much simpler explanations can be given for the plot discrepancies.

And yes I did laugh at the suggestion, I'm not lying about it, what an odd thing to say! Also, I've read reviews claiming the film is a feminist triumph and laughed at them too.

To say "it fucked up half of the film just to have a strong women character making one of the lead guys look like a dummy in a plot device that made no sense" is exactly what I'm talking about. It didn't do that and I found Laura Dern's refusal to explain the plan entirely believable. It made sense that a general would not reveal such a massive plan to an underling, well to me anyway (maybe's I'm on my own with this) Feminism didn't even come into for me, hence why I think its a total nonsense.

Far, far too much being read into what is quite simply an enjoyable romp set in space. But, given the franchise's history I can understand the fanboys desperation to forensically examine a film to the point where they see stuff to explain away their disappointment in something that can be just as easily put down to poor writing. To blame the "feminist agenda" for the shortcomings of the film is, quite simply, a load of tosh.
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PostThu Jan 18, 2018 2:54 pm

relfyoftheboro wrote:Sorry, you can flap your gums about it as much as you like fella. Far too much has been made of this "agenda" when much simpler explanations can be given for the plot discrepancies.

And yes I did laugh at the suggestion, I'm not lying about it, what an odd thing to say! Also, I've read reviews claiming the film is a feminist triumph and laughed at them too.

To say "it fucked up half of the film just to have a strong women character making one of the lead guys look like a dummy in a plot device that made no sense" is exactly what I'm talking about. It didn't do that and I found Laura Dern's refusal to explain the plan entirely believable. It made sense that a general would not reveal such a massive plan to an underling, well to me anyway (maybe's I'm on my own with this) Feminism didn't even come into for me, hence why I think its a total nonsense.

Far, far too much being read into what is quite simply an enjoyable romp set in space. But, given the franchise's history I can understand the fanboys desperation to forensically examine a film to the point where they see stuff to explain away their disappointment in something that can be just as easily put down to poor writing. To blame the "feminist agenda" for the shortcomings of the film is, quite simply, a load of tosh.


And you can call it laughable all you want, but your arguing against something that has been confirmed by everyone involved in making the film and are still trying to claim that you are the one who is correct. Of course it's dishonesty, what else could it be? You not noticing or being bothered about it is an opinion that I have no issue with, claiming that there was no feminist motive at all, despite confirmation from just about every relevant source possible , is just flat out wrong and will be until you can prove otherwise. Remember, you didn't just say you didn't notice or that people were making too much of it, you laughed at the idea of there ever being any kind motive from Disney.

Who exactly has made a massive deal about this? If you read my review, I attribute 1 line to this issue, saying it was a bit much. I'm now having to defend it because apparently such a crittiscm is off limits and makes someone a women hates :lol: . It didn't make sense what Derns character did, you may have had a point if she didn't continue to keep this a secret even after she'd been taken hostage by the flyboy she was hiding it from. That whole arc with Finn, which you said was pointless, was due to her pointlessly withholding that information for as long as possible.

No one is attacking feminism, you don't need to be so defensive with the mysoginist buzzword. All I said is that the way they pushed the feminist motive with Derns character was done poorly. You're claiming there was no motive, which goes against the own words of the actors, studio director, multiple reviews etc. The two arent mutually exclusive, you can not care about the motive AND admit that it exists, as difficult as that may be.

The feminist agenda is being blamed for one shortcoming, which happens to be the part of the film under the most scrutiny for making very little sense. It's a mixture of poor writing and the the need to fit this powerful new womens character in to the main plot. And again, an agenda is just a motive, yet you continue to hold that term up as if it's suggests anything more than 'we want to promote feminism in this film' - you keep claiming this isn't the case, feel free to actually back this up and tell me all these people who made this film are wrong.
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostThu Jan 18, 2018 3:12 pm

Its really not this important.

My opinion is that the feminist agenda thing is a load of tosh. You're opinion is that its not. Lets just leave there eh? :roll:
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PostThu Jan 18, 2018 3:44 pm

relfyoftheboro wrote:Its really not this important.

My opinion is that the feminist agenda thing is a load of tosh. You're opinion is that its not. Lets just leave there eh? :roll:


Agree, not that important, which is why I still loved the film, a lot more than most. It was a very slight criticism that's been taken massively out of context.

And that's fine, as long as you know that the 'feminist agenda' means nothing more than Disney wanting to promote feminism within this film, which I'm pretty sure you agree with; that's why it's baffling to me when you continue to say it doesn't exist, but I suppose we'll just have to agree to disagree on that.
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostThu Jan 18, 2018 4:03 pm

Sorry, but again I don't agree with that. There was no specific feminist agenda IMO. Just Disney doing what Disney have always done.

None of this was directed at you solely, there are plenty of others who have brought it up. After I watched the film and looked in on the reviews on here, I read some other reviews and saw this theory popping up. All of which I found amusing.
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostThu Jan 18, 2018 5:47 pm

relfyoftheboro wrote:Sorry, but again I don't agree with that. There was no specific feminist agenda IMO. Just Disney doing what Disney have always done.

None of this was directed at you solely, there are plenty of others who have brought it up. After I watched the film and looked in on the reviews on here, I read some other reviews and saw this theory popping up. All of which I found amusing.


Even though the studio have admitted so, along with Dern herself? Stubborn bastard :lol:

There's actually a lot more to this than you'd imagine. Kathleen Kennedy was hand picked by George Lucas to head up the studio because of her involvement with feminism in Hollywood. They recognised how one sided SW was in terms of representation both in terms of the cast and the male dominated production team. Agenda sounds harsh, but the full trilogy has a big feminist motive behind it, which is fair enough, I just think it was implemented poorly in that particular instance, that's all.
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Re: Last film you watched and a rating

PostFri Jan 19, 2018 9:22 am

her character would have brought a lot more to the film if she showed a bit of cleavage.....
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